- Theme 1: Hillside and River
- Theme 2: The Planted Landscape
- Theme 3: Grand and Modest Design
- Theme 4: Places of Treatment and Therapy
- Theme 5: Adaptability
- Theme 6: Self-Sufficiency / Community Spirit
- Theme 7: Stewardship of the Land
- Theme 8: Provincial Icon and Community Amenity
- Theme 9: What Have We Missed?
The following comments were collected at the May 23rd Drop-In Workshop. If you would prefer to download this information by PDF, please click here: Workshop #2 Results PDF
Theme 1: Hillside and River
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Why: this is a self answering question! What happens when history is reduced to print on paper? Letʼs not destroy the physical history on our very doorstep! |
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Increasingly in our urbanized world, history needs to be treasured and green spaces for recreation preserved. Natural history links people together. Green spaces are important for healing and for connecting with the natural world. |
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Natural history is important because so little undeveloped large land parcels are now left due to intense urbanization of surrounding areas. No matter how much “development and modernization” a community achieves, natural land values are crucial for a healthy, balanced society. These healthy, balanced values are natural green space, open space, unobstructed views out to mountains, rivers and fields (Colony Farm lands). |
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Why build mental facilities in Vancouver when the therapeutic site exists. “Patients” need fresh air and beauty around them. |
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Natural history of the Riverview Lands is important because it is part of our heritage! |
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The undeveloped lands should remain that way! There is precious little space for plants and wildlife in our fast-developing community. It cannot be preserved on a postage stamp, but needs space. |
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Endless words may pass but the intrinsic value of untouched heritage must be shared, preserved, revered. As a country with so little history, can we really think we need so much process to decide something so fundamentally obvious? |
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Increased awareness of the impact of development on biodiversity ought to compel us to preserve greenspace and rehabilitate it as able – soft footprints in any future development is essential. |
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It is one of the few river bottom areas left in a very developed region. Save the land for the future and rehabilitate the creeks and streams. |
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Finnieʼs Garden |
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The Riverview Hospital land is a treasure in the midst of suburbia. When this is lost it will be regretted by anyone who has known what it was. |
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The owls and the bears and the eagles and the salmon continue to live in the thickets and tree canopies and streams. It is very special and unusual in an urban space to have such a diverse array of natural habitats. It is not just natural “history.” It is natural “present.” Please let it be a natural “future.” |
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Save the land as a park! |
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The natural landscapes are of major importance. They connect the Coquitlam River and Colony Farm with the Riverview Forest and Port Moody Inlet. |
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Green link for wildlife from Burrard Inlet to the Fraser River. Migration route, seasonally. |
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Legacy is vital. This natural land and ecosystem belongs to citizens of yesteryear, now and future, but especially the animal creatures that call this land home. Save it for them! |
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Riverview Creek, Lost Creek, Davidsonʼs Creek, wetlands. |
Theme 2: The Planted Landscape
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Examples of trees such as are found on this ground are priceless in terms of their aesthetic, educational, and scientific values. This site will be world-renowned if it becomes a preserve or educational centre. International society of municipal arbourists. |
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There is no other place like it. The heritage trees are also a one of a kind collection – eliminating these is to destroy valuable history which cannot be resurrected once destroyed! Take a page from world renowned heritage sites eg. Boston. I was there recently and saw teams of workers working on preserving old buildings. |
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c.2000-2001, Girl Guide trips to visit and sing at Christmas and another time to see the trees. |
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Save the trees! |
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Trees such as this take a very long time to grow to the size of these. They are worth preserving – they do it in Europe, why not here? Arboretums are great draws for academic studies as well as tourists. The cannot be replaced. They have heritage value as well as buildings do. |
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The trees are a legacy, a gift to be held for all future generations. It is up to the present generations to make this so. |
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The trees contribute to the fresh air of Coquitlam. We do not have a heritage park of this size in Coquitlam. It needs to be maintained as a park. The trees are specimens that if cut down will never be replaced. |
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The tree collection is unique and irreplaceable. They are the lungs of the region and must be preserved. |
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Once gone, these trees can never be replaced. |
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This collection needs to be managed for health and life cycle. Exotic trees and plants need to be replaced in kind. |
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How long would it take to recreate this piece of nature? Answer: infinity. It can never be recreated. It is priceless. |
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It is so therapeutic for the mind and soul. I have gone through the ups and downs of life without medications as the serenity of the Riverview Lands calmed my spirit. The tree collection is so valuable as a teaching resource. My daughterʼs Brownie group came here to study about trees – wow, what a learning experience! |
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Why: The trees are a priceless asset to the entire region. They must be preserved at any an all costs. There are things money cannot buy and 100-year-old trees and rare trees are among those few. |
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Hear, hear! |
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Yes, yes! |
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Please donʼt destroy what has taken 100 years to produce. |
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The arboretum is immensely valuable and must not just be guarded but stewarded. Caring for the trees and renewing the arboretum as trees reach their inevitable lifespan. |
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Trees take a long time to grow. These trees have been here for a long time – time and growth are priceless and timeless. |
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Why: Very unique specimens of mature trees that were nurtured and planned.
What: To present a pleasing and soothing impression. Early planting by John Davidson the provinceʼs first botanist who developed the first botanical garden on this site. Trained a Kew Gardens in England. Also developed western Canadaʼs oldest arboretum, all planned and connected to beautifully designed heritage buildings all over the Riverview site. |
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The remarkable collection of trees and landscaped spaces is of extraordinary educational and recreational value. The value is not just in individual features or things. The value is in the entire, organized well-rooted arrangement of paths, grass fields, trees and vistas. The whole is greater than the sum of the individual features. |
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These trees are not what you would find in your backyard. So awesome. |
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The grounds and trees are the highest quality any park can provide. Many specimen trees came from people who much later developed the UBC Botanical Garden. This was an earlier botanical garden and continues to be. Itʼs beautiful in all seasons and must be retained for future generations. These trees and grounds cannot be replaced. |
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Need more citizen participation walks / school groups / Scouts / Girl Guides etc. to see and appreciate grounds. |
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The tree collection is all over the Lands. There is no “arboretum area.” This could be an internationally recognized horticultural destination. A “remnant” is better than nothing. Cultivated by trained landscapers to very high standards. |
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The trees are a world class collection of mature trees which add immeasurably to the grand landscape design. Of course the are important! |
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These trees have been planted specifically to fit into the landscape. The collection of trees is unprecedented in the area of Vancouver. It is a jewel in the crown and should not be lost. |
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Walking for residents is healthful. Seeing the changing seasons is important. We need green space for the increasing population around Coquitlam Centre. Mundy Park is one experience but earlier or later day walking needs a well-lit place. Itʼs safe. Itʼs good for the healthy to interact with residents. This is a “Stanley Park.” We wonʼt get it back. |
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Stanley Park, Central Park … people with vision saved these, we need to save Riverview. |
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The Beech trees, the Oaks. If properly managed, these could be as good or better than UBCs gardens. |
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Trees planted are some of the best mature specimens existing anywhere. Well tended when young and well planned, even though badly neglected in recent years, they survive and would continue to thrive and play a role in connecting humans to the majesty of the trees. These kinds of trees in European jurisdictions are considered a heritage structure and have budgets and government programs to look after them. Why do we even consider removing them? |
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One just has to look at the residential development directly to the west and across the river to the east to see how landscapes can be destroyed for the mighty $. Plants are landscapes and this includes old growth and new growth as well as undergrowth and open fields. |
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The fruit trees are testament to and evidence of the heritage – beauty to be saved. The garden is worthy of preserving as a heritage garden. |
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The treesʼ colours through seasons, buildings as descriptive as they are, are a photographerʼs dream. Encourage students and schools. |
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My husband and I have walked through this park several times for therapy, relaxation, fresh air and exercise. This must be very therapeutic for the patients that still reside there. |
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Keep the trees, keep the green space. Once bulldozed we cannot go back. In an urban environment, green space is very important. |
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The trees are important to me at all seasons. They support us mentally, physically and spiritually. The open lawns are serene in a hectic world. Greenness and quietness is healing. Finnieʼs garden, re-created by volunteers, is a magnet for people and wildlife alike. Allow the arboretum and open space to be a treasured space in this Lower Mainland of condos and roads. |
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The social benefits to both patients and visitors are in part due to the landscape and calming nature of the Riverview Lands. The stewardship efforts have contributed to these benefits. |
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Significant trees throughout the Lands. |
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Ianʼs beech tree. |
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Trees and gardens. |
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Orchard. |
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Sequoia, Ginkgo. |
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Tree nursery. |
Theme 3: Grand and Modest Design
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We need to preserve our history as well as our heritage. Where else in Coquitlam do we see buildings like this? |
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There is no other place like it. The architecturally historic buildings are priceless. Take a page from world renowned heritage sites eg. Boston. I was there recently and saw teams of workers working on preserving old buildings. |
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The heritage value of the buildings needs to be preserved. |
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More recent Lodge buildings. |
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Terrible that patients had to look at noise / traffic of highway and railway [from the Valleyview building]. Patientsʼ Bill of Rights. |
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Patient labour! Especially the land clearing and the stone walls. Stone walls, stone stairs – so many! Made by patients. Should be measured and displayed. |
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Refurbish older buildings into education centres for heritage themes with donated fixtures from the past to compliment the heritage lands and walkways. |
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Design that is coherent with the sweep of the space and the landscape is a part of the intrinsic character of Riverview. This must be a value in all future thinking. |
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The design is important for its historic aspects. |
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The province has very few grand buildings and therefore it would be very important to maintain the restore the remarkable, century-old buildings. The landscape could be described as grand, but it is also magnificent, serene, and peaceful, and cannot be replaced. It took a century to create and should remain for residents to enjoy for centuries more. |
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This example of unique architecture displayed in these large buildings is ultra-rare and once lost are like an animal species that will become extinct if knocked down. |
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The present architecturally historic buildings could be restored and utilized for what they originally used for – mentally ill patients. The buildings could become “condos” for the patients who are being shipped out to the Downtown East Side – not too therapeutic for oneʼs health! The buildings could also be used for medical facilities for the patients. We need to give back to what we have robbed from the mentally ill! |
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All the buildings have a story to tell – the heritage buildings for sure but some of the more modern buildings are very functional and should still be in sue for health care – Valleyview, Henry Esson Young etc. |
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Well designed buildings not only have a use but also represent the strivings of past times. There must be some buildings for future generations to see for their beauty of design and form. Glass and steel is functional but cold and can be frightening or threatening. |
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The design is vitally important for its uniqueness. There is nothing else like this amazing collection of buildings in this special setting. Centre Lawn, East and West Lawn are majestic in stature and design and should be preserved for arts, culture and heritage uses. |
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It is a real treasure to find such a connected landscape in an urban setting. Those who originally developed the site and landscaping understood how a connection to the natural world was therapeutic for our mental health. For a while, this was forgotten but now it is being re-discovered. To risk destroying this space and design now would be travesty. In a short time it would be sadly regretted. |
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The wooden bowling alleys in Penn Hall are important heritage structures. |
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These buildings should be restored and used for the mentally ill. If that is not possible, new buildings should be built to house the mentally ill. The way these people are treated is uncivilized and is not something Canada should be proud of. |
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Architectural history is so important, should be declared a national / provincial historical site. No real estate / partition of property. |
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All the work the patients did on site is very special, eg. rock walls and stairways. |
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These healing acres are for the handicapped, taking them away requires low ethics and morals. It is like “stealing candy from a baby.” |
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The change in architecture through the years gives the grounds a feeling of place and history of architecture covering 100 years. |
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The Riverview design was developed over 100 years ago. Throughout this time, designs, treatment and uses have changed and evolved. I believe we have now come full circle and accept that the early Riverview design was an excellent model to treat the human mental condition and now due to high density development, humans need a space like this for stress release and nature reconnection. We should not have to go to the Rockies to see open spaces and feel a connection with natural surroundings. The placement of buildings, walkways, trees are all integrated to invite humans in and feel the pull of greenery, soothing bird songs, etc. |
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Mysterious fire occurred and Penn Hall closed. |
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Key buildings should be preserved. Current standards would require new buildings that can be built with heritage designs. |
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What are the key buildings? |
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You wouldnʼt tear down the Parliament Buildings in Victoria, why would you want to raze the Riverview heritage buildings? |
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Keep development of high-rises and condos off and develop “responsibly.” |
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This place cannot be re-created, but can serve as a park-like setting for generations to come. The major large buildings should be maintained. Some areas can still be used for more current mental health treatment. The need for asylum still exists. |
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This is a site devoted to mental health and was cutting edge in its day. The only reason it isnʼt cutting edge in mental health research / diagnosis / treatment is lack of leadership and loss of our soul. The mentally ill are some of the most neglected in our society. |
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My primary concern is the preservation of green space and historic trees. Second is the footprint of the buildings and the relationship to the green space. Third is the actual look of the buildings. Put all this together and I would not be unhappy with future uses that preserved green, trees and footprints, but only facades of selected structures. |
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The planning and design of the buildings and grounds was inclusive and well thought out. These elements have stood the test of time and ideally should continue to be used for the benefit of the mentally ill. New buildings could be created on the footprints of existing buildings to treat, house, recover the evicted mentally ill patients. |
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How dare you! Try to develop these beautiful lands. |
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Please leave the land alone. Too many areas are destroyed by development. Take your time with the development process. |
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This site requires maintenance. Too much has been neglected in the past few years. Work is required. |
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Library / Henry Esson Young building, lecture theatres, classrooms, heritage parlour. |
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Cottages. |
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Boiler house. |
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Historical buildings – Lawn buildings, Crease Clinic. |
Theme 4: Places of Treatment and Therapy
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The patients worked in Finnieʼs Garden and this provided tremendous therapy for them. |
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Maintaining Riverview for support of mental health patients is critical, but those people deserve to be cared for in modern facilities. A private/public partnership would help in allowing the re-development of the Lands. Upgraded and new buildings to serve primary, secondary and tertiary needs. Open spaces in their natural condition preserved. Small component of market housing with buffer to existing lands. |
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The buildings should be oriented to increase walking between facilities. Walking is excellent for health. Regarding building size, small buildings require much froe staff. Is there no means of creating humane density? Who is going to care for the aging population without resources for at-home nurses? What is the demographic bell curve telling you? |
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When my brother lived at Riverview, he was socially active, physically active walking the grounds, and so happy! Since he has been sent to live in the Downtown East Side, he no longer walks, sits in his room, as he is scared to go out into the Vancouver “jungle” and has totally deteriorated. Riverview Lands is definitely a place for treatment, so good for the mind. |
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These places saved lives, allowed to heal, rather than set adrift. The grounds function as a sanctuary. The lands absorbed the mental illness (eg. screaming is accommodated. |
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Penn Hall was important as a place of fun, socialization. |
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There is along history of treating the mentally ill here. |
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Tranquility, spiritual, peace, quiet, calm. Horticultural therapy. Green space, watercourses, wetlands, biodiversity, wildlife habitat. Seven creeks traverse the lands, some with fish such as salmon, coho. Beauty of the seasons, winter spring, summer and fall. Rolling hills, trails and meadows, open spaces to walk, bike or run for recreational value. Open to view, panoramic views – Golden Ears mountains to the north, Mount Baker to the south. Place of healing, wellness, refuge and protection. |
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There are few sanctuaries left, very few that can match this one. |
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The therapeutic history allows us to know where we have been and how treatment policies have changed. Hitosry ties us to where we live. The fact that people, highly stressed in the world today, need places of beauty and quietness to recreate themselves. |
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Let the buildings go. Save the landscape |
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Riverview needs to be for mental health care treatment and after care. It would be great to include educational psychological teaching / research facility or a small version of one. UBC, SFU, Douglas College could all be involved. We will need an area for an increase in dementia-related diseases. |
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The whole context of the history of mental health care over the years is important. This is the only place where it is visual. |
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Our treatment of people with mental difficulties is shameful to us as a society. So many people do not have the ability or skills to care for themselves and to live with dignity within a typical community. We do have the intelligence and resources (a great resource being the Riverview Lands) to provide these people with a safe and nurturing place to live. We need to end these evils: 1. Destitute mentally ill people wandering in the streets (eg. Vancouverʼs Downtown East Side). 2. Mentally ill people occupying space in regular hospitals, space inappropriate for them and needed by other patients. 3. Mentally ill people terrorizing their families and others. Riverview is an ideal location where experts can design appropriate places for these people to live, amongst the trees and gardens, to feel safe and to feel a sense of community and home. Sanctuary, caring community. |
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These lands belong to the mentally ill. They should remain dedicated to primary research and treatment. We have so much more to learn. |
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We need to understand our progress in treatment deeply, visually and emotionally. The Lands help this. The Lands are an asylum in the true sense of the word. |
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Riverview has always been important to the local region since it opened for its therapeutic purposes. No NIMBY happening here. We want it here. |
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This facility needs to be turned into a teaching facility to help with the impending increase in people with age-related mental health and other issues. We could create a world-class geriatric studies centre. |
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Therapeutic history is important because we cannot go forward if you donʼt know where you have been. So much “modern” research now tells us that mental health is greatly helped and influenced by being exposed to open spaces, natural surroundings, fresh air, places to walk and take exercise. Guess what? Riverview has all this, we own it, letʼs just look after it and let it continue to treat us as was envisioned over 100 years ago. We have retained so little of our gracious old buildings anywhere in Metro Vancouver. The buildings at Riverview as a group represent so much history and are fine architectural specimens of their day. Large spaces like this could be put to great uses in the future. |
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The therapeutic value of the open spaces is not only a matter of history and heritage. Three days ago, I said hello to a group of five male patients who were enjoying a safe and peaceful walk across the entire site. A leader kept an eye on the slow walkers, demonstrating their sense of a healing community. |
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We must not hide this history. We must also recognize the designation of the lands and buildings, integrating history, intent and heritage values. |
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Finnieʼs Garden is a very special place and should be kept for its original use. |
Theme 5: Adaptability
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Letʼs plan together with the Kwikwetlem First Nations for their involvement in the future of Riverview. They have much to offer in stewardship and connection to Colony Farm activities. And the First Nations community, like every community, could be involved in enhanced mental health and addictions programs. |
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Think ahead for amenities like Stanley Park. |
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This was their home. They were comfortable here. Adaptability is important, but not total destruction. There is an excellent plan already developed for “adaptive uses.” |
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Retain what has been bought and paid for by earlier citizens of British Columbia. |
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By all means adapt present Riverview to now address homelessness, addiction, etc. these lands, buildings and planned gardens were initially developed for similar uses in their day. Now we update to 2012 and use this resource to treat problems evident in our BC society today. |
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The needs of a large growing city are complex and multi-faceted. This site was a cutting edge / responsive facility serving the needs of the most vulnerable in society, responding to change and challenges. We must look backward and forward at the same time and for the same purpose. |
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Yes. Much of this facility can be used fro current mental health care. It just needs to adapt to the present, as it has in the past. |
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Currently the Lands are adapting to neglect and may need to adapt to the depredations of the developers and greed. |
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I donʼt believe mental health should be part of Riverview. For years the people with such problems were shoved out of the way. Riverview was the answer – a dismal, foggy place out of the way (although it is not as foggy now as in years past). Think of it this way, sunshine, gardening and animals all help people feel better but all these important elements to a healthy life are in short supply at Riverview. In this area, if you want to garden, itʼs difficult, one good crop every four years. This is depressing, along with the dismal, foggy we weather at this location. Canʼt we treat mentally ill people with better elements that this? |
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Adapt, do not destroy … the value will be lost if the alteration is too drastic – concrete, high density, etc. |
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First Nations reserve must be respected as their legacy during Riverview Hospitalʼs evolution to meet our current mental health issues, drug / alcohol detox treatments and recovery programs are sadly lacking in Metro Vancouver. Why not Riverview Hospital? Local hospitals cannot support increasing numbers of dementia patients displaced from Riverview and hard core drug addicts who require their own space and skilled medical support. Homeless shelters are a band aid, not equipped to support or treat these vulnerable folks, many of who are now homeless as a result of Riverview closures. Would our forebears support closing this down? No. Providing care continues to be important. |
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The adaptability can be seen in the diverse uses of the site – health care, arborists, dog walkers, radio hobbyists – who have used the location in harmony for decades. And now the spaces are used for newer buildings and facilities that reflect modern care practices. The 244 acres can be adaptable and multi-purpose into the future. |
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Besides for mental health uses, some of the buildings should be adapted and refurbished for uses like offices for community groups, arts and cultural groups, and recreational facilities. |
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People can adapt to many things, good and bad. Sometimes it is better to step back! Riverview can and still should be a healing place. Un-adapt and restore to an exceptional health facility again. |
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Adapt – fine. But some things must not be lost. Public ownership, public access, priority use for mental health treatment, the tree collection, the heritage buildings – these things should remain constant. |
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I agree. |
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I think the buildings should adapt and become condos only for the mentally ill to adapt to the view of non-hospitalization settings. Also, some of the buildings could be used for medical facilities for the mentally ill. At the present, the patients have been “shipped out” leaving to “adapt” to foreign areas and surroundings and far from friends and relatives. We need to adapt the use of the buildings solely for the purpose of a “good mental health” being or becoming facility for the needy. |
Theme 6: Self-Sufficiency / Community Spirit
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Letʼs plan together with the Kwikwetlem First Nations for their involvement in the future of Riverview. They have much to offer in stewardship and connection to Colony Farm activities. And the First Nations community, like every community, could be involved in enhanced mental health and addictions programs. |
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It has value for film making and dog walking. |
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Slow speed limits and an unhurried landscape. |
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Patients felt good about doing their jobs. |
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“Heʼs a local” speaks of the importance of Riverview in the life of Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam. |
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It takes a village … |
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It is important to build on previous citizensʼ vision, not just discard it and arrogantly believe we now know better. We are doomed to repeat past mistakes! |
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It has value for film making and dog walking. |
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Enduring social institutions in Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam. |
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Penn Hall was such an important part of the social lives of patients. One girl who was discharged from Riverview used to come back every Friday that they had a dance. That was her community, her social life. Others go to night clubs, golf course, a trip to Hawaii. For some mentally ill, all they had was Penn Hall. It should have been replaced. |
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Everyone had jobs. Patients washed floors, polished taps … |
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Generations of workers at Riverview. |
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People here often married co-workers. |
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People today need to know what it was like. Milk comes from cows, not the supermarket. Community gardens are important. |
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My brother used to farm on the Lands, did upholstery, made rocking chairs … At Riverview, idle hands lead to idle minds! It was such a vibrant community and could become so again if properly planned. |
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This is an iconic facility that has been terribly neglected. It is not just a Coquitlam / Port Coquitlam facility (although it is hugely significant in these communities). It is a core part of BCʼs history. |
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The community spirit can be seen in the positive interactions of the people who have walked, lived and visited. |
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There are those who canʼt see the forest for the trees. And there are those who canʼt see the trees for the forest. But even for those who see the trees and forest, rarely do the see the roots, without which neither the trees nor forest could exist. |
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I loved the seasonal landscape as the light lamps were lit up with Christmas decorations. So lovely! |
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The idea of a complete therapy for mental illness, where patients had meaningful activities and interaction with the community, was successful and far-sighted. |
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We need more community gardens, people need activities. Bike trails and gardens are very important. |
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The concept of self-sufficiency is almost lost today, especially for mentally ill people. This should be re-created and the work of the patients and staff kept on record. |
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Community spirit is evidenced by people coming together to save the Lands. |
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Why not add education for the public on growing food, composting, as well as involving residents benefiting from the pleasure of growing their food? It sure beats TV and cigarettes. |
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Self-sufficiency is great profit, not a consideration or goal. |
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Maintain a balance. Need to be practical in decision-making. |
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In this great province we have a large, unacceptable number of homeless people, many of whom have mental health problems. This is the reason they are homeless. Riverview could be developed to provide “sheltered” housing for many of these folks. By using the example of the Downtown East Side, the Riverview community could provide a healthy, self-sufficient, independent life within a sheltered community model. The addicted, alcohol syndrome, disadvantaged, etc. need a place to be their home. Group homes come and go at the whims of government. To develop a “community” to house these folds would be the best use of the Riverview Lands. Why sell it off just to used hard to find mental health dollars to buy housing sites for homeless people? |
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Maintain community by preserving Riverview. What could be easier? |
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Riverview Hospital was a total community, self-sufficient with food, community centre, bus stop, post office, gardens and open space, chapel etc. It was very important to so many patients and families, it should be preserved intact. Much of the forest has already been developed. |
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Future homeless retirement destination property. |
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These Lands once provided 2,000 jobs and had green space. |
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Farmers markets operated by patients. Incentives, recycling, entrepreneurship, can contribute, can be useful. UBC for the homeless. |
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Riverview as a community has a better chance of healing people with mental illness than isolating them in sterile city spaces. People need a community to help them heal as well as grow. People need exposure to varieties of socialization and healing and less segregation. Riverview could also serve for the homeless, battered women, etc. There are spaces sitting empty! |
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I remember Christmas at East Lawn. Dances, singing, fun. It really made my family happy. So much can be done for the mentally ill if given a proper facility. This facility is Riverview. |
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Patients harvested hay in 1913 and grew potatoes. The nursery produced 17,593 pounds of new potatoes. Bees in their first year produced 381 pounds of honey. In 1916, plants at the botanical garden John Davidson estimated to number about 26,000, which were transported to the Point Grey site of UBC. |
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Pennington Hall has great memories for me. Loved the staff. It was a real “socially” happening place and my brother thoroughly loved it. We used to bowl there. A real shame it closed. |
Theme 7: Stewardship of the Land
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Letʼs plan together with the Kwikwetlem First Nations for their involvement in the future of Riverview. They have much to offer in stewardship and connection to Colony Farm activities. And the First Nations community, like every community, could be involved in enhanced mental health and addictions programs. |
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How about the Kwikwetlem First Nation? Isnʼt this their land? |
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The Lawn buildings, Crease Clinic, the Boysʼ Industrial School “cottages,” all the residences, and the Administration building. These are all excellent heritage rated. Other buildings: Henry Esson Young, North Lawn, Penn Hall, Valleyview have excellent facilities. Together this collection has potential for use as educational, conference, or art centre in harmony with mental health treatment and research, |
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Save it all as a park. |
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The clearest sign of successful, diverse stewardship is that Riverview has existed as a mental health facility and a world-class arboretum. These groups have worked collaboratively together, jointly sharing the space and respecting each other. A sign of poor stewardship is Riverview Heights subdivision that simply took earlier lands for a single purpose. |
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“It is very important for people, especially children, who live in cities to have an opportunity to experience nature. That is what makes the Riverview Lands so important. I hope it will be seen as already fully developed and left for people to experience.” Dr. David Suzuki |
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The lands should be returned for the enjoyment of who they were created for ititially – the mentally ill. They need a place for restorative health. |
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Why build a building in Vancouver as has been suggested when this site is so supremely more beautiful. Patients were moved to the Vancouver streets years ago in a failed experiment so they should be moved back where they belong. |
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Properly managed for healthy forests, gardens and lawns. Restored waterways and conservation initiatives. Flora and fauna preserved and enjoyed in concert with human activity. |
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These lands were retained for their therapeutic benefits for those with chronic drug / alcohol addictions and those with mental health issues, which is a growing trend in our society. Where better to recover you mental health? Vanishing natural areas are essential for all Metro Vancouver residentsʼ mental, physical and spiritual stability, especially due to greater density. More people living in high rises need community gardens for good nutritious food currently grown for food banks. We all need good healthy food and wide open habitat, as well as Riverviewʼs arboretum. Our forbears supported Riverview as the site for mental health treatment and recovery which is province-wide. |
Theme 8: Provincial Icon and Community Amenity
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Letʼs involve Kwikwetlem Band in the discussion. How can it benefit from the future uses of these lands? |
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The people who came before created a gem at Riverview – a sanctuary for the mentally ill, mystic trees, beautiful green spaces and wildlife habitat connecting Colony Farm and Riverview Forest. It is a fantastic community amenity for mental wellness. We need to honour the people created Riverview by having it continue. |
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The future generations deserve this. |
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If the First Nations have any connection with this area, we owe it to them to respect that and not just disregard what they feel like we have in the past. Many citizens feel a great attachment to this place because we live nearby and see what intense urban development has done to the surrounding area. Many of us have dealt with mental health issues or know these who are suffering still and understand that Riverview could provide a ray of hope for future mental health treatment and community. Many of us can make the connection from past history to present day reality. How does the song go – “take paradise and put up a parking lot.” Is this what we as British Columbians aspire to for the last piece of paradise in our midst? |
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Riverview is not just an icon of grand ambition. It is an icon of a deep commitment to the health and well-being of the people of the province. It is an icon of a caring society that creates a safe and healing environment for people. The icon is now the smaller buildings (Cottonwood, etc.), many more of which can be built in and around the landscaped setting. The more tragic icon is the empty buildings while patients needing health care are living in the streets or filling jails. |
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There are not many iconic spaces left. Weʼre losing our story and sense of place. We can put houses on everything or we can values the unique spaces and honor their intended purposes. |
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The whole remaining site is an icon and the legacy of the far-sighted men and women who planned and created it. It is the legacy of the patients whose labour created and maintained it. |
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Very few people in North America and Canada value historical sites. It is important as part of the history of Coquitlam and for that reason alone should be saved. It is almost like a Capability Brown landscape that has been planted purposefully. You would never find this anywhere else. |
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The cemetery has space for others. Do we want to use it? Example – a small Church of England church in Australia that has its own cemetery (old English style) invites people to choose to use their cemetery. Applicants mush achieve the criteria, eg. relatives already buried there or some claim to historical aspect of church, etc. |
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If you need to be told why itʼs important you will never understand. |
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I have walked my dogs along the back road and it is beautiful. It is so peaceful. You could spend the whole day there. It is a very special place. The whole of Riverview is very special and should be preserved. |
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I agree. |
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The entire urban forest and all its benefits to our social, environmental and economics of the Tri-Cities communities. |
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The iconic spaces in the Tri-Cities included Oakalla / Deer Lake, Woodlands, BC Pen and Riverview. Some of Deer Lake lands remain, the others are gone. Riverview Lands are a crown jewel to be preserved.
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I agree. |
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All aspects of the early Riverview Lands have their place in history. The site is centrally located in Metro Vancouver, well served by public transit, easy access to highways and roads. The intense development of surrounding lands has left Riverview as an island of green space which although neglected still retains much of itʼs early historical buildings. This is our Ankor Wat or Windsor Castle. Why would we want to destroy it just to sell more condos? “We” actually donʼt. Someone in “government” does. |
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Cemetery. |
Theme 9: What Have We Missed?
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Riverview has saved lives and should continue to do so. |
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Therapeutic labour contributed by patients:
Sold in 1904 to King / Crown (public lands) |
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Thanks to all who continuously work to keep our community great. |
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Please do not develop these lands any more. This space and buildings are heritage. The trees are amazing and must be saved for the future. I will be a tree hugging granny if development takes place. |
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UBC for the homeless that never should have ended up on the street with no hope, no help and no family. |
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Riverview Hospital was a happy and comfortable home where people felt accepted and valued. There were 5,000 people there in the 1960s. This deserves recognition as a historical site. The history can be combined with recreation and serve the community in the future – gardens, trees, walking trails, etc. |
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Riverview is a hospital and should remain a hospital. |
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Preserve / Reinvigorate / Renew: Heritage, environmental / arboretum, cutting edge mental health facility. |
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There is no dollar value to the Riverview Lands, they are “priceless.” Valuable to the mind and soul of both the mentally ill and “normal.” What is normal anyways? With a serene sanctuary like Riverview, all can reach their potential physically (walking the grounds), mentally (inspirational), and spiritually (look up at the trees). |
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Timeline for report is too short. Public workshops should be held in schools, City Hall, etc. Other groups contacted ʻstakeholdersʼ at workshop? |
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You have missed any mention of wildlife values. Swifts live in some of the old chimneys, bats and barn owls (which eat insects and rodents) roost / nest in the building sites, green areas connect with Mundy Park and Colony Farm. Salmon returning to creeks, south facing land used extensively by migratory birds … |
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Signage at front of venue. |
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Save the woods. |
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You have missed the overall picture. In segmenting it you have lost the spirit of the Lands. |
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Riverview and Colony Farm used to be run in conjunction with one another. A working farm providing work for the mentally ill. Where could you find a better combination, producing one of the top breeding farms in Canada. What a loss. |
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Supported financially by the province. |
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Advertising for todayʼs event inadequate. Perhaps some signs around the community for the next event and email messages which could be sent around. This subject is too important not the have the largest participation possible. |